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    Default Re: CFI researching planes to buy for training

    Quote Originally Posted by 109JB View Post
    To charge for training in your airplane it would have to be a factory built lsa version. Otherwise if it was an eab you could only charge for your time as cfi , and not rental time on the airplane. You could also charge for your time as cfi instructing in a Kitfox that you don't own but again not for airplane rental.

    interesting, I knew a CFI who taught Tailwheel Endorsement and BFR in his experimental airplane (Not a KF). He would collect his normal hourly rate for his instruction and would split the avgas cost with the student. The student would write two separate checks to him, one for CFI services and a second check to cover 50% of fuel cost. I don’t know if it was 100% FAA legal, but he did it for many years. He recently retired at 80+ years of age with 60+ years of flight.
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    I believe it is legal to share expenses on an experimental aircraft. And if the instructor feels his instruction time is worth $100 an hour, maybe he does all right. That probably skirts the regulations a bit but unless he charged less if the instruction was done in someone else's plane, how would they prove it. JImChuk

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    just found this. May be something to look in to.

    https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates...craft-rentals/
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    Default Re: CFI researching planes to buy for training

    Quote Originally Posted by 109JB View Post
    just found this. May be something to look in to.

    https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates...craft-rentals/
    Follow up to this:

    https://shackelford.law/news-aviatio...ight%20reviews.
    John Brannen
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    Kitfox IV 1050 - Rotax 582 (sold)
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    Default Re: CFI researching planes to buy for training

    Quote Originally Posted by 109JB View Post
    just found this. May be something to look in to.

    https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates...craft-rentals/

    thanks for posting, very interesting read.


    then I read the next post.... BOO, all good things must come to an end!
    Last edited by Greg g; 09-14-2020 at 04:58 PM.

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    Default Re: CFI researching planes to buy for training

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox Guy View Post
    interesting, I knew a CFI who taught Tailwheel Endorsement and BFR in his experimental airplane (Not a KF). He would collect his normal hourly rate for his instruction and would split the avgas cost with the student. The student would write two separate checks to him, one for CFI services and a second check to cover 50% of fuel cost. I don’t know if it was 100% FAA legal, but he did it for many years. He recently retired at 80+ years of age with 60+ years of flight.
    He was 100% skirting the rules. Had something happened he'd be screwed. The refs are clear on this.

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