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    My KFIII rebuild has about 10 hrs. on it now with no real issues but I'd like to get it running smoother. It has the 912ul with the Ivo 72 ultralight prop. I've balanced the carbs with my Carbmate and they show dead on at 4100 rpm where it likes to cruise. It's not bad just not a smooth as some 912's I've flown. I'm wondering if I need to get the prop balanced ? Any ideas or suggestions welcome.

    All and all it's a lot of fun, just a dirt simple little airplane that really performs.

    Thanks,

    EG

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    Default Re: vibrations

    Having a balanced prop will make the biggest difference.

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    EG,

    1. What power setting did you balance the carbs at? Just because your preferred cruise setting is 4100, that doesn't mean that's the power setting you need to sync' at. Your post suggests you did, but I might have misunderstood it.

    2. Are you sure your blades are all pitched exactly the same? Some pitch tools are less accurate than others and a blade that is different to the rest will cause vibration. I prefer ones that rely on gravity and an actual pointer on a gauge to make sure that each blade is pitched identically.

    3. Have you checked the tracking of the prop tips? This was the cause of my original vibration which I cured very easily. With one of the prop tips in the 6 o'clock position line up an object on a step (a paint tin or anything will do) and place this object 1mm in front of the prop tip. Rotate the other two blades past the object and any gap differences greater than 1/8 inch will certainly give vibration when the engine is running. I think it could be this as this type of vibration often doesn't show at higher power settings as the centrifugal force above 4000 rpm is enough to force the prop blades to track better. At tick over it won't show either as there isn't enough prop speed forth tracking to make a vibration. My GSC (that was sent back) had a 1/4 inch tracking difference on one blade. At 3000 to 4000 rpm it was like the engine was trying to exit the airframe.

    4. It would be worth getting the prop balanced and don't forget to check the spinner too. There are clever ways of doing the spinner and if it is a 9 inch one it's amazing how a poorly balanced spinner can throw the balance out.

    I hope this helps slightly.
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    Thanks for you suggestions. I balanced the carbs at 4000rpm. The Ivo adjust all the blades together. There is no way to individually adjust the pitch on separate blades. I'm using a small bullet spinner. I'll check the tracking.

    EG

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    Hi again. Someone here will be able to clarify this but I think you'll find you really want to be synchronising the carbs at a much lower power setting than 4000. At 4000 rpm the butterflies are quite open, therefore masking any throttle cable length differences. To get a more accurate sync' I think it's supposed to be done at around 2500 rpm, and once that's done, all other power settings will look after themselves.

    Can someone confirm??
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