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    Default IVO Problem

    I've been having an issue with my IVO Medium lately and not being very familiar with the design, I thought I'd ask the members for some help.

    When toggling the pitch control on the ground, I can hear the prop trying to change pitch but then the circuit breaker pops. This happens in either direction. When I switch it over to auto, I can hear the prop clicking every few seconds as it is trying to change pitch but it is definitely not moving. The CB does not pop when I have it in auto. This same scenario occurs in flight.

    My call to the IVO company last week was unproductive. They just said that it sounds like an electrical problem (duh!!!) and for me to remove the prop and send in the hub for repairs.

    Thanks for any replies.

    Len S.

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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    Sounds like good advice.
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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    I recently traded for a used Ivo light with the IFAdjust feature.
    I was told the IFA no longer worked.
    I found that the tiny walnut sized electric motor no longer worked.
    Ivo told me my IFA was an out of date design and that for $340. they would replace with the current design including required longer spinner.
    Even the new design seems to have a high failure rate.
    I question how much of this failure is due to normal wear or over stressing the system.
    I have not seen the original install instructions so am not aware of the operating limitations.
    One owner said he had 3 failures and blamed the failures on using a course pitched ultralight prop that required too much twisting torque to reach the reduced take-off pitch needed.
    If these Ivo systems do not have limit switches, what keeps the gears and motor from being over loaded if the switch is accidentally held too long in either direction when the engine is not running?
    Is the breaker supposed to prevent this from happening?
    Does one have to do a full power run up at each take-off to make sure you have the correct pitch for proper take off RPM?
    These are non issues when flying with a conventional constant speed prop.

    Herman

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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    Kevin,

    I don't know what IVO could possibly be talking about, as shortening wire runs can only result in LOWER resistance and LOWER current draw (if anything the breaker would have less of a tendency to trip), but probably would not even be measurable unless the wire size was marginally small for the load to begin with. Does the wire come with factory installed connectors on the end? If so, maybe they have had problems with people doing poor installs on new connectors after cutting wires.
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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    Hi,

    I talked with the factory to verify the wire lengths, and yes they come with connectors on , not anything elaborate for connectors just flat blade 1/4" crimpers. Instructions are in bold not to shorten the 12' wires or the circuit breaker will trip sooner. I even asked about other brands of circuit breakers, I would of liked to keep all the same , but they recommend only the breaker they supply. So I followed directions with the hope of trouble free use
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    Hi guys

    My ultralight also came with instructions NOT to shorten the wires. I just coiled them up and connected directly to the battery. In over 100 hours I have never had the breaker pop.I also did not install the limit washers. It does not take long to figure out how to operate the prop without over speeding or lugging the engine. In my case I just wish the planetary parts lasted a bit longer. Maybe the next ones will!
    Don

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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    [quote=jrevens;18956]Kevin,

    I don't know what IVO could possibly be talking about, as shortening wire runs can only result in LOWER resistance and LOWER current draw

    Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Ohms law state that with constant voltage lower resistance results in higher current draw as in brighter (hotter) lights.

    Lowell
    Last edited by HighWing; 10-13-2011 at 08:39 PM.

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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    E/IR
    Correct on the second sentence...a lower resistance (R) will increase current (I) which I believe would not be wanted.
    Dan B
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    Default Re: IVO Problem

    Thank you Lowell & Dan... you're absolutely right of course, & thanks for correcting me. That'll teach me to use my keyboard before engaging my brain! The situation still seems rather odd however - it would seem to be very unusual that the wire size & length would be so critical. The wire size & length would usually be selected as to not create any appreciable voltage drop to a device like a motor. I guess that IVO may be limiting the voltage to something less than battery voltage with this wire. It's interesting.
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