ADS-B out questions

[neville]

I have has a Garmin GDL-39 for ADS-B in for a couple of years now (about $500..00.) I recently added ADS-B out by purchasing the Dynon SV 261 mode S transponder and 2020 compliant GPS for my existing Advanced 5600 EFIS for $2600.00. All installed by me. So the complete ADS-B system was about $3300.00. Plus $130.00 to electronic shop for certification. Garmin unit is also about t$3300.00 with compliant internal GPS, but it must be installed by a certified shop for more dollars. Here in the puget sound area there is not much airspace where a legal flight will be possible after 2020 so for most operations a ADS-B out system will be a necessity.

[Timberwolf]

I have has a Garmin GDL-39 for ADS-B in for a couple of years now (about $500..00.) I recently added ADS-B out by purchasing the Dynon SV 261 mode S transponder and 2020 compliant GPS for my existing Advanced 5600 EFIS for $2600.00. All installed by me. So the complete ADS-B system was about $3300.00. Plus $130.00 to electronic shop for certification. Garmin unit is also about t$3300.00 with compliant internal GPS, but it must be installed by a certified shop for more dollars. Here in the puget sound area there is not much airspace where a legal flight will be possible after 2020 so for most operations a ADS-B out system will be a necessity.

Neville, garmin has a unit for $1800 for UAT out called the GDL82. Anyone can install the garmin Avionics including the gtx345 in an experimental. They try to force you to use a dealer when installing in certified aircraft. Not sure what garmin unit you are referencing for $3300, but I assume the gtx335.

[fastfred]

Anyone know anything about the Rebate?
The trouble for NavWorx surfaced when ADS600-B owners were denied payment of the FAA’s $500 ADS-B install rebate because the program only applies to FAA-approved and mandate-compliant systems.

[jrevens]

Anyone know anything about the Rebate?
The trouble for NavWorx surfaced when ADS600-B owners were denied payment of the FAA’s $500 ADS-B install rebate because the program only applies to FAA-approved and mandate-compliant systems.

The “trouble” surfaced long before then.

[fastfred]

Can we still get the rebate and is there a list of products that qualify?

[jiott]

Unless something has changed recently, the final day to register for the rebate was Sept. 18, 2017.

[jiott]

I kind of feel I got cheated out of my rebate. I installed the Dynon Skyview system with their mode S remote transponder about 4.5 years ago. It turns out that this mode S xponder is compliant with the 2020 ADS-B out requirement. All it needed was to replace my old WAAS GPS antenna puck with the new Dynon 2020 WAAS puck, which I did last year (a super easy replacement). With just a little tweaking of the xponder setup parameters I was fully 2020 ADS-B out compliant, and passed the fly around test the FAA makes you do. So I then went to the FAA website to apply for my $500 rebate (since it was prior to Sept. 18) and found out I was not elgible! It was because according to the FAA ATC records I had been flying around for 4 years with a 2020 compliant xponder, and the rebate was only for NEW installations. Apparently the ATC people can only tell if you have the 2020 compliant xponder and they can't determine or don't care if you have a 2020 compliant WAAS GPS. My old GPS was WAAS but not the 2020 compliant WAAS, in other words not on their "list". I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect that I could have continued with the old WAAS GPS and become 2020 compliant and passed the fly test; they may never have really known my GPS was not on their "list". Anyway I am now all legally compliant but without my $500 rebate. Bummer!

[jrevens]

Can we still get the rebate and is there a list of products that qualify?

Fred,

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/rebate/faq/#q0701