dan , i did check my engine last nite and i did use the ring thermocouples . i didnt install it under a spark plug but rather under a bolt in the cylinder head where the rotax temp probs was installed . for the water temp , i have a piece of pipe with a boss with the rotax temp probe installed . i think ive seen the same thing for sale in a lockwood catalog . and you are correct , the rotax probe does require a ground .