Closer Now than We've Ever Been Before

[RCHooper]

This is my first post for a nine year TeamKitfox member and been reading a lot in the past 6 months, retired June 1st and looking at purchasing a 1998 Series 5 Vixen project from the original owner and fixxen to look at it this weekend. The project has quite a few upgrades to the series 7 Super Sport and is not yet covered. So I can see and look at it all.

What are some of the important things to look for and perhaps the top x things that are "Don't do it!" items.

Thank you all in advance.

regards,
hoop

[jmodguy]

Look at teh overall quality of the work that has been done so far. Make sure the pieces are all there, especially the bigger more expensive parts, i.e. flaperons, windscreen, control rods, seat pan etc. If the wings are assembled make sure they are straight.
I would count on new fuel tanks. About 1100 with shipping for 2.
If anything major is missing, price it accordingly. Don't forget to include shipping from Idaho to home for the big parts.

[RCHooper]

Jeff,
Thank you for your response.
I was wondering about the fuel tanks, which have not been installed yet, but are 18+ years old.
Saw it this past weekend and the craftsmenship seemed good. The wings were hanging on the back wall with an 1/8" of black dust on them. I'm not sure what I was expecting, though I thought everything would be better organized. There was no builder's log or photo log for the work completed.

I'm sure this is a great project for someone.

I'm usually not the type of person who buys things and fixes them up. I've done it and enjoyed it. But haven't done it with an airplane kit and not sure that I want to try that now.

Thanks for your help and comments.

Regards
Hoop

[southwind32]

I bought a Kitfox SS 7 project a couple of months ago. It was started in 2008. The wings were covered and taped with polybrush applied. The fuselage sides and bottom were covered and taped up through polybrush. The airplane had sat in a garage for a couple years or so. When I picked it up, I looked things over fairly quickly. I wasn't to concerned about minor things. I didn't even care about the condition of the fabric. I bought it at a very good price. When I got it home, I discovered a rats/mouse nest in one wing, further investigation found one spar with corrosion, that I'm replacing. Needless to say, the fabric was completely removed. Some of the items I felt needed attention on the fuselage were, the rudder pedals were stiff, one wouldn't move. The control column was stiff and rough (two bad bearings). One rudder cable had been nicked with something, and had some broken cable strands. Found a nicked in the rudder post, that looked like it had been made with a cutoff wheel. Made a patch and weld it in, but due to welding I had to take out most of the vertical stabilizer ribs. I essentially took everything apart on the fuselage and redid it to my satisfaction. Don't get me wrong, the previous owners overall work wasn't bad, i think due to sitting, and possibly him going back to correct some of the faults I found, because no bolts and nuts were tight on anything. Some of the items, like the cable and the nick in the tail post were probably ok, they probably would have never failed, but I didn't like them, so like I said, I fixed them to my satisfaction. Total cost of new parts for everything including fabric is around $1000. I could spend twice what I paid for the project and still be money ahead, so I'm not complaining, and haven't objected to fixing anything. I can basically say, that I've built everything on it now LOL. Not taken over someones project and finished it.
So, using my experience perhaps will help give you some guidance. Look it over, buy it right, but plan on fixing some things too, even if you don't spot it intially, after you get it home, and start going over it, you'll find items, you don't like. I have a friend building F-! Rocket that he bought partially build, and he's gone through the same thing I have. He too, has had to back track and correct some issues.

[PapuaPilot]

I had a similar experience with the Model 5 that I bought. It was 14 years since new and about 20% built. Things were basically in good shape; but the rudder pedals were too tight, I found corrosion on the aluminum side formers, etc. I can't complain about it for the price I paid. Yes, you should expect to redo some things and possibly replace some too.

[RCHooper]

Thank you all,

Your're helping me warm up to a project purchase, thank you. But I am kind of struggling with price - What would be a fair/ market price for a Tri gear series 5 with many upgrades without engine and panel?

Again thank you.

Hoop