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    Default I found a new 1995 engine

    Any idea what a 1995ul is worth? no hours but completely unknown condition. Let's assume that I will take it to Elko to have the zipper big bore installed.

    It probably needs the rockers, soft start, big starter, reduction drive clutch?

    I am new to Rotax engines but I am guessing it's only worth $2000 or so given the risk that it might be junk.

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    Maybe I'm missing something here but, if this is a zero time engine it should still be somewhat preserved. If it was kept out of the weather your number doesn't seem to be very realistic but it would be a super deal.

    Engines in this time period that have 500-1000 hrs. on them are still going for 5-7K or more.

    The rotax doesn't have the same problems with rust and corrosion that the lyc and cont engines have.

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    Yes, please tell us a little more about this engine.

    Birddog486 is correct about the value...
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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    accessories have huge impact on price. Oil tank, radiator, oil cooler and especially exhaust for Kitfox application are very pricey if buying at new prices. Serial # before 4.405.189 will not accept softstart.

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    Concur! I would just about bet if the owner wanted to advertise it he could get closer to $10K out of then $2K. I would think a person would suspect something 'shady' if it sold for $2K. Heck, you can strip an old engine for parts and get a LOT more than $2k for less than half the parts.
    If that seller is wanting to sell it for $2K and you don't want it, I bet you will get a gazillion private messages from guys wanting to know where it is. I sure am!!! Even if it isn't in running condition I would take it.

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    I hear you guys but if I start at $19000 for a new 100 hp engine and subtract the overhaul cost of $12000 I found on the web, I am at $7000 before I even start buying a new exhaust. I found 28 service bulletins on a 95 engine. I am pretty sure none of them have been done.

    I don't follow how this engine is worth $10000. It's only a 80hp engine. If it doesn't need a complete overhaul, I win. If it does, I lose. I should be in it less than a new engine so $2000 to $3000 puts me at only a couple thousand savings over a new engine with a slipper clutch. I also read on line that changing all the rubber hoses is $3000. A 20 year old engine, regardless of how many hours it has will need new hoses.

    Where is my math wrong?

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeTim View Post
    I hear you guys but if I start at $19000 for a new 100 hp engine and subtract the overhaul cost of $12000 I found on the web, I am at $7000 before I even start buying a new exhaust. I found 28 service bulletins on a 95 engine. I am pretty sure none of them have been done.

    I don't follow how this engine is worth $10000. It's only a 80hp engine. If it doesn't need a complete overhaul, I win. If it does, I lose. I should be in it less than a new engine so $2000 to $3000 puts me at only a couple thousand savings over a new engine with a slipper clutch. I also read on line that changing all the rubber hoses is $3000. A 20 year old engine, regardless of how many hours it has will need new hoses.

    Where is my math wrong?
    I don't think anyone is questioning your math,but the engine is worth more than
    2000/3000.00 dollars. The engine on my plane was "new" 1995 vintage still had assy grease on the rockers. It runs great, I will do some of the ad's as I build time. But the rubber looks perfect. Yes it's 80 hp but lots of kit foxes are flying with 80 hp.
    I guess it's up to you what your comfort level is?? Check out ebay and look at what a set of carbs go for! I'm sure if your really worried about getting a bad deal rotax has lots of new 912s. You could always offer it to one of us for 2000.00 I would be happy to take the risk

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    Rotax has an number of hours, and year in service rebuild requirement you may want to look into.
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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    However....
    Rotax puts a maximum lifetime on its engines. Depending on the engine number 12 to 15 years. So worst case you have three years to burn the hours.

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    Default Re: I found a new 1995 engine

    So, I can buy a new engine, put it in dry storage, get it out in 12 years & it's junk? Sure sounds like a "lawyer" rule to me. That 1946 Cub I flew the other day violates that one with its old Continental about 5 1/2 times over!

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