Reregistering a deregistered Kitfox.

[rdooley79]

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From the year, 1988, it's probably a model 1. The model 2's came out in 1989 according to kitfox.

Looks like a nice bird with low time.

[avidflyer]

Just ran the N # on the FAA website, and it says the plane has been deregistered. Kindof different though as well. Says there is a Hold on it as well. Don't know what that means..... I would say it's bound to lower the price somewhat. Jim Chuk

[rdooley79]

the registration is not a huge deal but is a pain to deal with for sure. Basically what you have to have is the airworthyness inspection sheet from the DAR. As long as it was signed off as airworthy at some point it can loose it's N-number but the plane is not "junk". Like a car it's like a title and license plates. You have to have a "title" but get new plates. not quite the same with a plane but similar.

Basically what you do is get in touch with your local FSDO. Tell them what you got, provide all of the documentation, A.R.O.W. as it was last legal, 3-view pictures and pictures of the N-number/experimental/passenger warning placards. It will need to be inspected by a A&P/I&A and endorsed as airworthy. They'll have you fill out all the paperwork again for registration but you won't need to get the bird inspected by a DAR, it's a paperwork thing. They'll review it all and as long as it's all correct and matches and you're cool to them (hey it helps a lot) then you should just need to go down to the FSDO and sign about 5 things and walk away with a registered plane all good to go. You may need to pick an n-number if the one on the plane is not available.


It sounds convoluted, it is because it's the gov but as long as you know what to expect and the plane is able to be registered and is flight worthy, you'll not have too big a problem.

If that's not right, please speak up!

[Av8r3400]

Well I can tell you I know of a lot of heavy ultralights that are now legally scrap because the owners didn't file paperwork in time to get them legal. The window to do this closed for ever in 2007. A bunch of early Kitfoxes were built and flown as "ultralight trainers". These were the type of planes that were well outside 103 weight and speed operating limits that Light Sport was designed to eliminate.


The three planes you have shown here, none of them, by the photos are legal. If the one was "deregistered" is has become a pumpkin. Its all over for that one. It will never get put back on the books. I seriously doubt that they can become legal as easily as you suggest, judging by the grief I have seen others go through attempting this. Have you personally done this? If you have, I would love to know where and how, in detail, did this happen.

My opinion is that all three of these examples will never fly legally again.
(Not that they ever did in the first place.)

[avidflyer]

My understanding is that the only way to register these planes and get them legal is to lie and claim you built the plane and then get the DAR to go along with it. Some have said they will tear the plane all apart and put it back togeather. Then get it registered as a new build. I believe that is illegal as well. It probably would work when you claim it was assembled from parts, but if the truth was know by the FAA they would say it was illegal. I know I wouldn't try it. Jim Chuk

[Geowitz]

I would do a rebuild and use the "miscellaneous parts" option. What's the difference?