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Thread: 2 stroke vs 4 stroke questions

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    Default Re: 2 stroke vs 4 stroke questions

    One last comment on the subject of 2 stroke vs 4 stroke;

    I've had four engine failures in aircraft since I started flying 30+ years ago. Two of them were with 2 strokes, and the other two were with certified 4 stroke aircraft engines. And three of the failures happened on takeoff () All but one of the failures was fuel related, which I believe is the biggest reason for any engine failure in an aircraft.

    So don't get too mezmerized by 4 stroke reliability.

    Here's what I remind people of when I hear people berating 2 strokes for their poor reliability while talking up how reliable 4 strokes are;

    "Fly everything like it has a 2 stroke engine in it. Any engine can fail..."

    I love my 912 engines, and have never had one fail me. But I still try to fly it as if it is going to quit any minute...

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    Default Re: 2 stroke vs 4 stroke questions

    Quote Originally Posted by av8rps View Post
    . But I still try to fly it as if it is going to quit any minute...
    Thats what they train to prepare us for!

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    Default Re: 2 stroke vs 4 stroke questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator View Post
    Im looking to buy a used KF 3 or 4 probably, Im just undecided between the 912 and the 2 strokes that they are powered with, Ive only flown planes with 4 strokes, and never rode in a KF yet (but want to if I can find a way).

    Curious on your thoughts? the 4 stroke more reliable? Cheaper to run/maintain?

    Thanks!
    I don't think either one is more reliable. The operator/maintainer skillset does have a lot to do with it. I find the tinkerers are the one that have the most troubles. 912 ir a 582 does not matter.

    I have thousands of 2 stroke hours and in over 30 year I have have one stop running. ( was a Rotax 185 single ignition on a Lazair in hte Very Early 80s Carbon in gap of plug- landed on one engine pulled plug- clenaed and off again)

    You can find 2 sroke Kitfoxs up to Model Iv for 12 to 20k
    same one with 912 from 23 to 30 k

    Or you can pay double that again for a kit and build it.

    Kitfox a great plane, safe and fun.

    Check my movies 503, 582 912 and 912S Kitfoxes.

    It is what you can afford it seems but build them light to perform.
    I have seen 912 Kitfox IV @ 600 lbs and also some tanks at 900 lbs......
    unreal !!

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