If I might add my 2 cents worth, I'm the dummy who brought up "placecarding" the IFA switch to fudge a little on the technicalities. Maybe the Cub Crafters SS was a bad example but there a lots of very slick LSA's that obviously will exceed LSA speed limits and it seems to me placecarding for a max rpm would be the only way to keep the speeds down. I talked to the builder of a Sonex Wiex recently that was registered as an LSA. According to the builder it would exceed 200mph at altitude with throttle to spare. I know the regs state "138mph at sea level" but this takes fudging to a whole new level. Everybody fudges. That's why we have LSA. It's because everybody fudged. All those 400 pound, 582 powered ultralights helped get us Sport Pilot. Now we have 180hp light sport aircraft that are capable of 2000 pound gross but are limited to 1320. Now add 2-200 pound adults and anything more than 5 gallons gas will put it over max gross. I wonder if anyone will fudge a little. I like the idea of "No log entry". Then as the builder I can do my own annuals. James Thomas Kitfox IV Fixed pitch prop No Fudge-