Kitfox 7SS for sale. CAUTION

[MKirkm]

Just spoke with this guy. He is claiming you can decrease certified weight to meet LSA requirements.
"Factory built kitfox 189k ask, 850lb empty 1550lb gross. Can be loaded at 1320lb" Everything I've read says you can increase gross but can never decrease gross wt.

[MKirkm]

SLSA cannot be changed at all. E-SLA could only be raised. This plane is neither. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Flybyjim]

SLSA cannot be changed at all. E-SLA could only be raised. This plane is neither. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, I believe you are correct, weight can go up but not down. It looks like this was the plane flown in the air show at Airventure a few years ago, great performance, I thought this was a factory owned plane??

[MKirkm]

Interesting, it is listed as aerobatic.

[MKirkm]

Aerobatic video included in advertisement. Being sold by sales agency. As the conversation with him went on, I tried to clarify. I quoted the FAA definition: As defined in FAR 1.1, a light-sport aircraft is an aircraft other than a helicopter or powered-lift that since its original certification has continued to meet the following:- A maximum takeoff weight of not more than 660 pounds (300 kilograms) for lighter-than-air aircraft; 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation on water; or 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for aircraft intended for operation on water.
I stated if it had ever been certified over 1320 lb it could not be changed to LSA compliance. He said "not true, you just have to know aplicable regulations." Missed a call from him, tried to call back, no answer. He eventually said he already had 3 offers by people who had "already figured it out", and refused to tell me any more about how he proposed to do it. Still listed, though.

Bugging me, because if he or someone has found a legal loopwhole, would love to know how. Most likely a sales deception.

[109JB]

Aerobatic video included in advertisement. Being sold by sales agency. As the conversation with him went on, I tried to clarify. I quoted the FAA definition: As defined in FAR 1.1, a light-sport aircraft is an aircraft other than a helicopter or powered-lift that since its original certification has continued to meet the following:- A maximum takeoff weight of not more than 660 pounds (300 kilograms) for lighter-than-air aircraft; 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation on water; or 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for aircraft intended for operation on water.
I stated if it had ever been certified over 1320 lb it could not be changed to LSA compliance. He said "not true, you just have to know aplicable regulations." Missed a call from him, tried to call back, no answer. He eventually said he already had 3 offers by people who had "already figured it out", and refused to tell me any more about how he proposed to do it. Still listed, though.

Bugging me, because if he or someone has found a legal loopwhole, would love to know how. Most likely a sales deception.

The KIT manufacturer may be Kitfox Aircraft LLC, but the AIRPLANE manufacturer is listed as Foxair LLC, and it clearly lists it as Experimental Amateur-built.

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[desertdave]

Moved this thread to the discussion section where it belongs.

[buckchop]

The factory built that plane for Kiel (cant remember last name) least i think thats his name, he the acrobatic guy that flys at air shows usually does his show in a black and silver supercub if i remember right. But ur correct u cant lower the weight once its set from what ive been told.

[buckchop]

Ill bet its not Kiel sellin it, ill bet he has someone doing it for him that is not up on info.

[MKirkm]

Found this