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    Can a master solenoid be mounted flat on a plate or does it have to be vertical for a reason?

    I asked this question earlier but can't find were it went on as so if this is a double post please delete . Thanks
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    Harlan,


    Needs to be mounted vertically; and, a good idea to go to the solenoid manufacturers documentation - depending on the manufacturer, orientation may be cap up or cap down.

    If mounted sideways, the contactor operation may be intermittent as there is very little travel before the solenoid hits the stop inside.

    Do a search on "relay failure" there is a contribution by three of us on the subject plus some photos of the guts of these things and why the orientation is important.
    Last edited by Dave S; 06-26-2021 at 12:58 PM.
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    Thanks Dave. I searched before I asked but didn't find anything. Glad I asked because I had decided it would be ok laying down. I made a bracket to put it vertical, thanks for the info to keep me on the right track!
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    Here’s a good YouTube link.


    https://youtu.be/bvDuyM2e4gw
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    Dave, everything I read says to put a diode on the master and start solenoids but I can't find any supplied. I know very little about this other than where they go. Are these 5 watt diodes ok to use for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox Pilot View Post
    Dave, everything I read says to put a diode on the master and start solenoids but I can't find any supplied. I know very little about this other than where they go. Are these 5 watt diodes ok to use for that?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/26479237674...sAAOSwkrRfCVJy

    Hi Harlan,

    Weighing in here: the 12 V Zener you provided a link for would not be a good choice for the flyback diode on the solenoid. It would affect your electrical system and possibly burn out. Try something like a 1N4004 (instead of the 1N4148) in the diagram below.

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    Thank you very much!





    Quote Originally Posted by Av8r_Sed View Post
    Hi Harlan,

    Weighing in here: the 12 V Zener you provided a link for would not be a good choice for the flyback diode on the solenoid. It would affect your electrical system and possibly burn out. Try something like a 1N4004 (instead of the 1N4148) in the diagram below.

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    Harlan they should of came with your vertical power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowrider View Post
    Harlan they should of came with your vertical power.
    I will check that out. I could have sworn I had seen some but couldn't find them in any kitfox boxes, I didn't look in the v power box. I will for sure. Thanks!
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    FYI, Van's Aircraft parts catalog sell these diodes for the master and starter solenoids all ready to install with terminals attached and shrink tubed-no soldering or crimping required.
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