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    Default Experimental Registration

    Hey Everyone,
    A Kitfox just came up for sale that I'm interested in but the owner is going to de-certify it before selling.
    Any chance of getting it re-certified after purchase?

    Thanks,
    Doug

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    Default Re: Experimental Registration

    Are you sure about your wording? The owner may deregister the aircraft, but only the FAA can certify or decertify it.

    Dick B

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    Thanks for the reply Dick.
    He used the term "de-certify". I'll call him and verify this.
    Do you think it's feasible buy and fly it legally in either case?

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    Default Re: Experimental Registration

    There's a somewhat aged, but informative series of articles on EAA's website relating to this. There are no clear answers as it comes down to our legal system, especially in the state where the transaction happens.

    http://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-c...e-final-answer

    I would think that the seller is expecting to sell the parts, not an aircraft. I'm not sure how a purchaser could then reassemble the parts and certify it. I know people can certify a homebuilt created from parts, but this seems to be a different case.
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    Here is a link to a post by a very knowledgeable and well known DAR. See post #4.

    http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ss+certificate
    Maxwell Duke

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    Maule M7-235C Sold it (liked it though)
    RV-10 IO-540 Bought it
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    Default Re: Experimental Registration

    Doug,

    I think the sale ad says "....will be decertified...." whatever that means; however, if the craft is currently registered; your best bet is to call the person as you have decided and find out what what the deal is.

    There are situations where a seller of an experimental aircraft may decide to part out or otherwise cause an aircraft to no longer be an aircraft to control liability particularily in the case of a low value machine. Don't know if that is the case or not but calling the person and finding out what is up is the way to go.

    Dave S

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    Thanks for chiming in everyone. I tried calling him but got voicemail. I'll keep plugging.....

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    Called the seller and the plane sold within 2 hours. Wow.
    He is surrendering the AW cert for liability reasons.
    I called the local FSDO and was told it "MAY" be possible to get it registered.
    I'll keep looking.
    Thanks everone...

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    I am sure glad I did not buy it if the AW certificate has been surrendered.
    Maxwell Duke

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    Maule M7-235C Sold it (liked it though)
    RV-10 IO-540 Bought it
    Zenith CH-750 Built with 7 friends (DAR Vic Syracuse)

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    This was clearly stated in the ad and he was very up front about it.
    He basically sold it for half of what it is worth with the AW cert.

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