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Old 01-12-2018, 09:21 AM   #51
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For me, coffee is usually the greatest need to land airplanes...
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:11 AM   #52
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Cool. Since you don't need the AOA instrument, you can add another cup holder!
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:14 AM   #53
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Looks really upscale; I'm also curious on the software you used.
What about Comm radio, Intercom, ELT, cabin heat controls?
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:18 AM   #54
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(a)Get rid of the silly bottle holder
A. Have to appease the wife!

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(b)You don't need a separate AoA indicator; that'll be on the EFIS
B. Noted. Though it's rather small on screen, but I'm sure there are audio cues that bring your attention to an AoA problem.

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(c)Why (nowadays) have a separate avionics switch? If you don't trust the resilience of modern electronics to handle the start up voltage 'spikes' (which they do) then put something like a TCW IPS behind the panel.
(d)Nav/Strobes and Landing/Wig Wags could be combined into 2 x 3 position switches
C, D. Noted. I'll learn more about those things in time.

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I wish I didn't have to have backup ASI, altimeter and compass or else your design would almost be my Nirvana
U.S. experimentals aren't required to have any specific instrumentation correct?
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:25 AM   #55
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Looks really upscale; I'm also curious on the software you used.
What about Comm radio, Intercom, ELT, cabin heat controls?
To all those who asked, this was done in Adobe Illustrator. I've used it for years on the job. I could export some of the parts to use in other programs.

Comm and Audio panel can be remote mounted it seems from Garmin (in theory) in use it may be asking too much to access all this on one screen.

No cabin heat needed in California?

ELT, I see some panels with, others without. Can the interface be mounted elsewhere?
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:25 AM   #56
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If you look closely in the display you can see where the radio frequencies are located. Touch screen and the radio buttons pop up. The actual radios are remote mounted as he states. If this panel was in my plane I would just have to add a heater control rocker switch and the ELT test/activation control head. That is why glass panels can be so clean. Remote mount everything. Nothing says you have to mount the ELT switch on the panel either, I suppose.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:27 AM   #57
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I wish I didn't have to have backup ASI, altimeter and compass or else your design would almost be my Nirvana


In my view, if you only fly daylight VFR, you don't need backup ASI or altimiter. If the EFIS goes dark you can still easily fly a Kitfox by just looking outside. What you probably DO need as a backup is a wet compass; most people need help in flying a heading.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:37 PM   #58
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I agree 100%. Unfortunately both authorities with whom I'm involved (UK and Oz) think otherwise and insist we have these things. The UK even makes a standby compass a mandatory item.....chocolate fire guard springs to mind

As EFWD says, the comm panels hide on the EFIS until you press them and then they enlarge for data entry (or just transfer it from the nav display). It is more than sufficient to not require radio or transponder panels mucking up the nice, clean look. Radios have an intercom built in, so no need for a separate box.

Yep, you can set your AoA indicator to send tones to your headset, so you don't need a large display. Of course you don't absolutely need the AOA but it's a useful feature and if you've got it......well, you know the rest. I'm ex-Royal Navy, so I like the nice, steady tone telling me I'm on-speed.

Coffee gets drunk doing the day job. Coffee gets spilt when I'm playing

912iS for me as well, so: no master switch but the key would act as the master switch and, therefore, provide a bit of security as well. Would obviously need the LANE A, LANE B, Fuel Pump A & Fuel Pump B switches, which is a shame. How about controlling the lights through the EFIS via an electronic circuit breaker? That would get rid of the need for a couple of the switches. Combine that with the 'airborne' switch in the EFIS and you could set it up so you wouldn't have to even turn them on or off.....but obviously have the option to do so.

My OCD would entail hiding the USB ports (perhaps just underneath the panel). I agree with having the functionality available, I just don't want to see the ports and/or the wires.

I like gadgets and I like the look of this panel (minus cup holders)
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:24 PM   #59
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In my view, if you only fly daylight VFR, you don't need backup ASI or altimiter.
I agree 100%.


Unfortunately both authorities with whom I'm involved (UK and Oz) think otherwise and insist we have these things. The UK even makes a standby compass a mandatory item.....chocolate fire guard springs to mind


Paul,

I don't think we need to have backup ASI or altimiter in OZ (?). At least nobody told me!

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I sure get a kick out of you Oz folk. Had to google that "chocolate fire guard" bit.
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