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Old 09-19-2017, 09:26 AM   #21
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I learned to fly on steam and have flown the last 13 years on steam. The thing that amazes me about glass is how much information you can disseminate at a glance with out looking all over your panel. Not as important VFR flying but it's pretty neat.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:04 AM   #22
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OK maybe I am a glass junky, but I feel I should stick up for the glass even in a VFR panel. First of all I can't imagine building a beautiful VFR Kitfox and not considering taking it on some long x-country's, the therefore you need some kind of navigation. Yes you can use paper and pilotage, but what a self-imposed handicap. Or, many folks say I will use my iPad w/Foreflight. Again, what a self-imposed handicap with its tendency to overheat & shut down, hard to read in sunlight and glare, jury rigged mounting, subscription costs, etc. Why not an aircraft quality, built-in screen with free database updates and free firmware updates (try that with an iPad). I've been using my Dynon Skyview for 4 years now and itis still as up-to-date as ever at no additional cost to me. I have a hunch that the folks with steam gauges and iPads will have spent as much as I or more over the years in replacing obsolete iPads and subscription costs, and repairing failure prone gyro instruments.

I'm trying to be good natured here and I totally understand the nostalgia thing. Just thought the other camp needed explanation.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:13 AM   #23
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Nice Jim.
I was just speculating. Glad to hear that its all still current. I thought that maybe since I bought the stuff a year ago and still no plans to use it for about one more year I may be looking at outdated stuff just as it starys getting use.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:43 AM   #24
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So, help me out here since I don't know the answer. What is the difference in weight between a basic steam panel (like pictured in post # 18) and a single panel glass system? I hear guys talking about it but wonder if it is enough to even be part of the decision making process and it has not entered into this thread. Thanks.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:44 AM   #25
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Maybe some of the guys with the much older D10/180 Dynon panels can chime in, but I believe Dynon is still supporting these old panels with free software updates.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:58 AM   #26
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Ramos, I can't quote any numbers and it would depend on if you are comparing to a full 6-pack or partial steam panel, but there is a definite weight savings with solid state glass panel, especially if your glass includes engine instrumentation and remote transponder. Of course if you add steam style backup instruments (which you shouldn't need much of for VFR) it cuts down the weight savings.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:02 AM   #27
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So, help me out here since I don't know the answer. What is the difference in weight between a basic steam panel (like pictured in post # 18) and a single panel glass system? I hear guys talking about it but wonder if it is enough to even be part of the decision making process and it has not entered into this thread. Thanks.
It will be very variable... so many possibilities both ways. Don't forget to include the weight of components not mounted directly on the panel but necessary to make the glass panel display work also.
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Did I also mention Skyview is fully compatible and ready for ADS-B both OUT and IN. If your system already includes the Dynon remote mode S transponder, ADS-B OUT can be had for a simple $600 changeout of the GPS antenna. ADS-B IN with free traffic, weather, TFR's, etc. can be added with a small $800 module and a small Xponder style antenna. My system that I purchased 4.5 years ago was fully compatible and ready for these simple additions.
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