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    Default Ready for DAR

    I'm just about ready to have a DAR come look over my model IV.

    What recommendations would you offer?
    It's my first kit built but am A&P with IA for many years.

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    Jon
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    Default Re: Ready for DAR

    I would recommend you visit your local EAA chapter meeting and ask those guys who they recommend and who to avoid. Should be lots of local experience there.
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    What jiott said...
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    Make sure your paperwork is in order. Have cowlings off and maybe tail fairings for inspection. I can't remember if I had my seat out for inspection. Too long ago since my 4 was inspected. Weight and balance was looked over by my DAR.
    He did look through my photo album of the build. Seems like evey inspection is different. Good luck.


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    By paperwork do you mean anything beyond registration and weight and balance?

    I have no photographic documentation of the build nor any build logbook. Just a lot of dirty pages in the builders manual. I'm hoping my credentials carry the day.

    Jon
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    Why did you not keep a photo and written log of the build, this is paramount in the inspection and working with the DAR. Same is true to get the repairman certificate.

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    Jon,

    The assembly manual, which has places for dates & signatures etc. can serve as a build log book. Since you are an A& P with an IA you won't need a repairmans cert to do the annual condition inspection.
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    So please correct me here if I am wrong. Just because you have your A&P/IA does not excuse a person from proving you actually built the plane does it? Just a question and clarification for future situations.

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    I took lots of pictures during my build. My DAR never looked at them. As far as I know, there's no requirement to keep a builders log. I didn't keep one and my DAR didn't ask for one. The number one thing is to have all your paperwork. Here's what I have in my notes, 8050-3 aircraft registration form, 8130-6 application for airworthiness certificate, 8130-12 eligibility statement and airframe and engine logbooks. He also required me to make up a flight test program. There's no official form for this so I made up my own. I had a pretty extensive list with temps, rate of climb, stall speeds, best approach speeds, stuff like that. It's been a while so I may be leaving something out. It's really not that big a deal if you're prepared. I talked to my DAR ahead of time and even faxed some of my paperwork to him ahead of time to be sure I had it all right. A good DAR is going be a great help and he'll do all he can to help you to get everything right. I can't say enough good things about mine. He's done 2 planes for me and annuals too. Good luck, James Thomas

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    Oh, and one more thing, your weight and balance sheet. James Thomas

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