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I'm looking at purchasing a ground looped Avid model C heavy hauler.
Unfortunately, it seems I have to come to Kitfox forums to get info on Avids.
Are the dimensions, performance, cabin size, and control, more like a model 2 or 3 kitfox?
Is there any major differences?
Any info helps, and thank you!
One difference that comes to mind right away is the wingspan. Avid's standard wing is 29' 10 1/2", Kitfox is 32'. Also, if I remember right, the Kitfox 2 gross weight is 950 lb, the Kitfox 3 is 1050 lb. The Avid Heavy Hauler gross weight is sometimes listed as 1050, other times as 1150. I think the cabin size is the same on either plane. They both have very simalar airfoils, the Kitfox 4 went to a very different airfoil shape. Avids are nice planes, I've had 3 of them so far and fly my MK IV all the time. Take care,
Jim Chuk
Avid MK IV (flying)
Kitfox 4 (building)
northern Mn
What a about the vertical tail surfaces size and yaw stability?
Would this be improved over the model 2?
Thanks for the info....
As i understand it, the Avid Heavy Hauler wings are what gets the increase from 1050 to 1150. The OP said it is a Heavy Hauler. Although I have seen an Avid Mk IV that was registered at 1320. Builder sets the gross.
Aaron,
I have a model I and changed the vertical. It was a great improvement. Here is the link: http://www.teamkitfox.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=114
I fly a C model HH with most of the MK IV upgrades. The kitfox II and III will get me in STOL by a few feet every time. I put the F7A mixer arm upgrade on mine and that gets rid of most of the adverse yaw that a KF II has. I put the rounded MK IV rudder on mine before I ever flew it and it has plenty of rudder authority!
I have around 300 Hrs in the KF I and II and really dont have an opinion in one over the other (versus the Avid) other than I can haul more in my HH so I dont have to make as many trips. They fly darn near the same.
AKflyer, still working on the 800 efi conversion?
Slowly but surely.. Life seems to have given me an opprotunity to focus n the planes again for about the next 13 months or so. I plan on hitting the conversion hard around the end of the month if I get the full 2 weeks off from work.
Great job!
what a neat history and Kitfox you have there!
Why, thank you sir. I love the little bird.